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Plzrmeister 67M  
10144 posts
4/11/2019 1:19 pm

Submissive or slave .... It seems to Me the difference is subjective and if you asked a 1,000 different people, you'd get a 1,000 different answers.

Agreed. There would be common threads, but I doubt two definitions would ever mirror one another. The debate of what constitutes one or the other or the difference between the two is an exercise in frustration.

And 'No Limits'?

I think the only people who believe that crock live in a fantasy world. When a person agrees it's OK to have their eyes gouged out, all their teeth pulled and their ears cut off, then I'll agree there might be a person who actually means 'No Limits'.

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msfunfor 63M
10617 posts
4/11/2019 2:02 pm

hello laci ,
yes , stick to your guns !
everybody makes definitions to suit themselves,,lol

shallow grave : good movie ,,,,,bad outcome for anyone..lol

be good
M

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ohioeagle 74M
2057 posts
4/11/2019 2:33 pm

I respect and honor any and all limits a sub/slAve has.... believe in safe sane and consensual play always


mustswallowu8288 62M

4/11/2019 2:51 pm

I call myself a slave but even i dont really have a good handle on the difference with being called a sub as for no limits.....no chance


steelcager 61M
1996 posts
4/11/2019 3:56 pm

Everything should be negotiated as to limits of both, and safe words/signals should be established as well.

Everything else are just labels.


sirbob2017 68M
11 posts
4/11/2019 5:52 pm

What really is the concern over a name, be yourself and find one that will help you be the best you can be. Slave sub The hardest part is to find one that is real and cares about you. Take time and so not rush into anything, time is on your side.


tennmanforu 68M

4/11/2019 6:56 pm

that is the choice we make


brandygirasol 54T
9365 posts
4/12/2019 5:25 am

Ideally I would prefer to be a 24/7 Pleasure Sex Slave- supported and owned by a DOM ... However REAL LIFE intrudes and so thus I merely dabble as a Submissive plaything for DOMs part time only


riptorn1956 67M
3 posts
4/13/2019 1:21 pm

The term no limits is a falesy . I tend to push someone when they say no limits and they admit yeah they do . We are human and a lot of people are eager i can live with that as long as they understand


DancingDom 74M
22475 posts
4/16/2019 11:50 am

It is best to learn all you can about the various activities that can be employed. Read the preferences kind of questionnaire here on alt. But don't answer right off. If you do not know what something is. Look it up or ask general questions about it; such as, What are your experiences, understanding, ideas about, thoughts, comments etc about any given activity. Answering them for yourself, will help you define who you are, what your limits, are at least initially, your preferences are, will help guide you as you learn. Many define themselves as submissive, slave, dominat, master etc., but those definition are not always universal. Some are a bit of various elements. For example, no one other than a God is 100% dominat. Day to day life has us in various roles at work, at home, in the family, socially etc.

Some dominants are sensual, some are sadistic. Some submissives are masochistic, not all are. You willl get the idea. When talking to prospective partners, ask them open ended questions. Let them tell you what they are into, who they are as they see themselves, what their experience it. If you spell out your interests, limits and such, they will quite often parrot back what you want to hear.

"One Big Sky Covers Us All Equally"


SavageImpulses 49M

4/22/2019 5:15 pm

There's a bdsm personality test online that may help you classify yourself, if you care to. bdsmtest dot org. To me, however, the difference between the two is the amount of the power exchanged. The slave gives it all. The sub, instead, retains more agency. A slave has resigned him or herself to being, essentially property. Maybe in the sense of emotional capital, if such a thing exists, rather than as being owned as a means of production. A slave is a sub who has totally submitted their will to another, in my way of seeing things.


millicent0402gm 39F
2 posts
5/6/2019 10:21 pm

I think this group should be the group to meet the right and honest master that could afford to give me enough pains as I want it ....



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